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  This Story Says It All

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.

  it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.

  very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .

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  I agree, it is a win-win, as upsetting as it must be for the mother. She made the right choice, its just sad that she couldn't have a free choice without sanctions or control. I would be surprised to see JW apologists jump on this train. Great quote from Jesus by the way.
  
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  This Story Says It All

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this story shows the sad reality of being a jw in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care.

  it also shows that for jw's, obeying watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child.

  very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/ .

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  This story shows the sad reality of being a JW in a medical emergency, and how incredibly difficult it is to make an informed, free choice about medical care. It also shows that for JW's, obeying Watchtower leaders is more important than marriage or even the life of your child. Very sad indeed: http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/267054/religious-husband-dumped-saving-child/

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  Religious husband dumped her for saving her child

  By: Emily Marcelo - Columnist / @Inq_Lifestyle

  Philippine Daily Inquirer / 04:20 AM July 02, 2017

  My husband of 11 years left me because I allowed my daughter to have a blood transfusion after she contracted dengue. My husband is a devout Jehovah’s Witness and his religion believes that having a blood transfusion is a sin against God. I can’t believe how selfish he is. Our daughter’s life was at stake and she needed blood! He said this procedure would make Jehovah angry. He said he was willing to sacrifice our daughter’s life to please God. Without his permission, I donated my own blood for my daughter.

  Since I have broken this rule, my husband dumped me. It’s heartbreaking that my husband put his religion first. He even warned that our daughter and I would be punished for what I’ve done. It’s been seven months since my husband left us. I am now a solo parent. My husband even refuses to give financial support because he said he didn’t want to support a disobedient wife and daughter. Even my church has disowned me. My daughter and I are not allowed to attend services at Kingdom Hall anymore. Our fellow Jehovah Witnesses friends won’t even help me or talk to me. But I’m still lucky I have my family to back me up.

  Am I a bad Christian? Does God still love me?

  
  

  
  
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  WT's expert on blood!

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the january 8, 2000 awake magazine published an article "the growing demand for bloodless medicine and surgery".

  this article has been quoted extensively by jws as support for their "scientific" justification for refusing blood products.. a quote from that article that is familiar to most jws and exjws is this one:.

  “all those dealing with blood and caring for surgical patients have to consider bloodless surgery.”—dr.

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  We have an article in the que on this "WT expert".
  
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  Ex-Wife of Canadian JW Attorney Speaks to NATIONAL POST about KIDNAPPING sick JW kids

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  jwn poster, uzzah, posted a link to this article in one of his older posts which he brought to the top, but i think this excellent article deserves a thread of its own.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/178981/1/interesting-phone-call-media-the-blood-issuenational post http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2041666sept.

  28, 2009. a witness accountchurch denies moving children to avoid transfusions.

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  Barbara - please contact me about this.
  
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  Judge acts to limit Watchtower's influence on child.

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a judge in the uk has ordered strict limits on a jw father's ability to let the watchtower indoctrinate his child.

  not sure if this is precedent setting, but i think the judge is spot on.

  the reasons are explained in the article.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/.

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  A judge in the UK has ordered strict limits on a JW father's ability to let the Watchtower indoctrinate his child. Not sure if this is precedent setting, but I think the judge is spot on. The reasons are explained in the article.
  

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/11/jehovahs-witness-agrees-not-show-son-religious-cartoons-risk/
  
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  Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?

  because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.

  ) when the friend had an abortion.

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  Sure it could happen. They have categories of sin they can drop a lot of things into, i.e. "loose conduct". She could probably deflect the action by "repenting" or simply stating she disapproved of the action and was there to try and discourage the abortion right up to the last minute.
  
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  Patient blood management/ Cell saver / smaller tubes - German film

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this video in german private tvstation from this may in which a cellsaver is presented and explained and a blood saving new system is proposed.. http://www.rtl-hessen.de/public/videos/2017-05-18-maz-blut-01-112351185.mp4.

  further a new blood saving system, namely some tubes or pipes are propagated which would save blood in the process.

  these pipes are smaller and only need 1/2 of human blood for the cell saver process.

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  So perhaps you reduce the need for transfusions by 20%. That is a positive outcome, but bear in mind the JW who elects to follow Watchtowers irrational policy is forced to cut down the safety net of lifesaving blood transfusion when these methods fail or are inadequate. This sort of thing is mostly a distraction. A sleight of hand to change focus from where it should be, and that is on all of the situations where there are no alternatives to allogenic transfusion. Watchtower prefers to talk about "bloodless surgery" which is mostly limited to healthy JWs undergoing elective, planned surgery. Why? Because they have no substantive response to the very real and serious consequences of rejecting a medically necessary transfusion of red cells or platelets.
  
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  Lots of newbies posting! Welcome one and all!

  by freddo in

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  2. friends

  is there something going on in jaydub land that has brought this on?

  hope so!.

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  Brothers - we are seeing marvelous reports from the field! Surely Jehovah's rich blessing flows to those reaching out in these end times.
  
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  A drastic medical view

  by Fatfreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when mom and dad and i adopted watchtower teachings during the mid 50's, the most influential couple we knew were special pioneers by the names of raymond and doris bridgman.

  they were truly fine people in many senses, a bit younger than my folks, and very charismatic.

  the place was new bedford, massachusetts, u.s.a.. it wasn't long before you realized that the bridgmans ate differently than the rest of us.

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  My maternal grandmother was also a product of the 1930's Watchtower Society. She maintained many of these strange ideas, and passed them down to my mother. Multi-phobic is how I would describe it, with a deep distrust of medical doctors, vaccines, prescription medicines, fear of germs, contamination, etc. My guess would be that the Golden Age magazine, under the editorial direction of C.J. Woodworth, is the source of almost all of this dysfunction.
  
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  A JW explains Blood Fractions

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i was looking around from some information on the wt's stance concerning the use of stem cells, and i came across this article on a defending jehovah's witnesses blog.. rather than informing the reader all that much about stem cells, the author diverts the conversation into a discussion of "blood fractions" (*note: the term "blood fractions" appears to be another one of those wt bloodspeak terms coined by the wt.

  "blood components" or "blood products" are the terms used more frequently by the medical world.

  "fractions" implies tiny amounts).

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  Lee Elder

  Never confuse devotion to the organization with logic.